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Originally Posted by wilthrill  "The Catholic church was the same way before the modern age. But, just like the Catholic church, there are moderates in Islam." Mikael
Thank you for making my point. Catholism WAS like that BEFORE the modern age. The problem is the Islamofacists are like that TODAY!!!
"If most Muslims were fanatical, you'd think most of them wouldn't be semi-democratic. " Mikael
I never said MOST mulsims were like that. In fact, I use the word "Islamofacists" to describe the ones who are fanatical. They are NOT the majority BUT there are tens of millions of them and they do present a problem even if we pretend they don't. (you know, generally speaking, when a man says he's going to kill you and is making preparations to do that, you should take him at his word)
I don't blame all muslims for the terrorist actions of the Islamofacists. I DO however blame all muslims for their SILENCE! EVERY TIME one of the terrorist actions are carried out we should see mainstream Muslims CONDEMNING it! And yet we don't. We should see tens of thousands of them in the street condemning it and yet the ONLY time we see tens of thousands of muslims in the street is when they are rioting over a Danish cartoon or chanting "death to america". Please prove me wrong and give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE to the contrary.
Instead we have groups like CAIR (counsel on Islamic relations) criticizing US when 6 imans acting like terrorists are pulled from a plane. CAIR is trying to sue United Airlines when, in fact, there were probably muslims on that flight that were PROTECTED by United's actions (and BTW EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER on that plane, excluding the imans of course, supported United's actions). But CAIR would rather support the fanatics (and yes those 6 imans were fanatics) than the everyday people on that plane. And after THAT, I'm supposed to feel sorry for them????
I'm sorry but they've worn out my patience. When I see tens of thousands of muslims in the streets demonstrating against terrorism, I'll rethink my view. But I'm not holding my breath.
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Well, I posted a link to some youtube clips. They are from some movie, which I haven't seen in it's entirety. But, the beliefs espoused from the lead character are the same from what I've learned from my Muslim friends. You definately need cable or DSL to watch them, but, they are great.
I do agree with you, Wilthrill, on what you are saying. Yes, I'd love to see millions of Muslims out there on the streets protesting against the terrorists. But realistically, where are the millions of Americans protesting these things? We all believe in what is right and standing against what is wrong, but do we have to take to the streets everyday to prove it?
No. They, like us, are a silent majority. We have jobs-so do they.
The ones you see on t.v. are the dead-end, have no job/future bastards.
True, we should not trust anyone we don't know-but we shouldn't let a person's religious beliefs stop us from getting to know them.