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wilthrill · 05-25-2007, 10:53 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/...slim_americans

1 in 4 US muslims under age thirty say suicide bombing justified to defend Islam.

Even more shocking from the article:

"Even so, U.S. Muslims are far less accepting of suicide attacks than Muslims in many other nations. In Pew surveys last year, support in some Muslim countries exceeded 50 percent, while it was considered justifiable by about one in four Muslims in Britain and Spain, and one in three in France.

"We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam."

I thinks it begs credibility to maintain that somewhere in the neighborhood of 35% of muslims WORLDWIDE constitutes a few "crazies just like other faiths have them".

But let's not confine our argument to muslims. What do you do in a country that values freedom of religion when a religion, or a very large part of it, has at it's core beliefs the idea that one must convert to that religion or die? Understand these people don't just want to be left alone to practice their faith. THAT would present little problem. No, these people want YOU to practice their faith or they are justified in MURDERING you. So, do you just allow them to continue their preparations to kill the infidels?

You know the US Constitution is many things but it is not a suicide pact!!
Therefore, my position is that if you wish to practice a religion it is NONE of my business UNLESS that "religion" is promoting my destruction in which case you shouldn't be allowed to practice it here OR I should be allowed to defend myself in a manner less brutal than that which you would adopt (i.e. I'd kill those trying to kill me as opposed to killing innocent women and children).

So, do we have some totally unfettered "right" to practice any "religion" even if it requires the killing of others? And, if not, are we ever going to do anything about those who do BEFORE we end up having to kill roughly 300 million people?

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wilthrill Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 819 Rep Power: 46	What to do When Religion wants to kill you? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070522/...slim_americans 1 in 4 US muslims under age thirty say suicide bombing justified to defend Islam. Even more shocking from the article: "Even so, U.S. Muslims are far less accepting of suicide attacks than Muslims in many other nations. In Pew surveys last year, support in some Muslim countries exceeded 50 percent, while it was considered justifiable by about one in four Muslims in Britain and Spain, and one in three in France. "We have crazies just like other faiths have them," said Eide Alawan, who directs interfaith outreach at the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Mich., one of the nation's largest mosques. He said killing innocent people contradicts Islam." I thinks it begs credibility to maintain that somewhere in the neighborhood of 35% of muslims WORLDWIDE constitutes a few "crazies just like other faiths have them". But let's not confine our argument to muslims. What do you do in a country that values freedom of religion when a religion, or a very large part of it, has at it's core beliefs the idea that one must convert to that religion or die? Understand these people don't just want to be left alone to practice their faith. THAT would present little problem. No, these people want YOU to practice their faith or they are justified in MURDERING you. So, do you just allow them to continue their preparations to kill the infidels? You know the US Constitution is many things but it is not a suicide pact!! Therefore, my position is that if you wish to practice a religion it is NONE of my business UNLESS that "religion" is promoting my destruction in which case you shouldn't be allowed to practice it here OR I should be allowed to defend myself in a manner less brutal than that which you would adopt (i.e. I'd kill those trying to kill me as opposed to killing innocent women and children). So, do we have some totally unfettered "right" to practice any "religion" even if it requires the killing of others? And, if not, are we ever going to do anything about those who do BEFORE we end up having to kill roughly 300 million people?