the evangelicals are definitly a close second.....you can call me a coock if you like, but they ignore basic science, and they do truly want to run this country like a theocracy......in a sense theyre actually trying to sneak in the back door by using the political path.


I wouldn't call you a COOCK over that, junkernaut (perhaps you meant crock or Kook). I don't know you that well... LOL

I would make a distinction between imposing your morals on someone (which many of the evangelicals want to do and which I oppose) and imposing your religion on them (aka convert or die) but there's more red meat to be had in your statement:

"my basic view is that religion needs to stay out of politics and politics out of religion."

Well that would be nice but it is impossible. You might as well say, "I want to keep any uninformed opinions out of politics" because you cannot separate a person's belief system from THAT person. Most people have some sort of belief system and for the VAST majority of Americans that belief system falls within a recognized "religion". If we were to eliminate all "religious people" from office we'd be left with nihilists and atheists to run the country. I may not care for the evangelicals but I'd prefer them to someone who thinks the sum of life is pain and misery.

I don't think the founders intended for christianity to be the state religion. To imply that they were too ignorant to realize that the vast majority of people WERE christians and thus this country WAS FOUNDED on Judeo-christian values does them a disservice.

If the founders weren't convinced that the ten commandments were a central basis of our heritage and laws then why did they put them IN STONE on the highest court in the land?