Originally Posted by wilthrill

Well you know, I have a wife and kids and am not suicidal, so I am concerned about safety also.....

However hellyeah's "logic" from above has been used for the last twenty years to NOT produce an efficient car.

Using the same "logic" we should all drive Hummers and get 5 mpg because Hummers are heavy and thus everything else is "unsafe"!!!! (That and I just love saying "hummer").

Currently, if I want a car that gets 50 mpg, I have to go with an unsafe car (because as noted above the Honda CRX and Geo don't do well in crash tests due to no steel reinforcement) OR I have to go with diesel which costs more than gas.

If I want a car that gets 40+ mpg I have to go "unsafe", diesel or hybrid (read expensive to buy and work on).

Is there ANYONE out there who can seriously maintain that the car manufacturers could not make a SAFE, gasoline powered car that got over 40 mpg????

Originally Posted by ambergirl

They probably can. But I think there is this secret agreement between the car deals and the gas people to not do that. The old I'll scratch your back you scratch mine deal. And a couple of days ago I heard a comercial from a car dealer. The claim that if you buy one of their cars you will only pay $2.99 a gal. for the next two years I think. Maybe five. I can't remember. But that shows that deals between dealers and gas people do happen.