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Old 08-25-2008, 09:13 AM
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Top 10 Signs It's Time to Quit Your Band

Quitting your band is one of the hardest decisions youíll ever make. Youíve devoted time, money, and your heart and soul in to this group. Every band sees some trouble from time to time, and you donít want to be a weenie and quit just because someone used your guitar pick to clean their teeth. But there may be a time when you have to seriously consider if being in your band is still in line with your personal goals.

Hereís a list of things that may serve as red flags.

1. You donít feel inspired any more.

Music is art. If you donít have the inspiration to keep making moreóor if you feel like youíre just going through the motions in your practice or performance, itís time to re-evaluate whether or not your band is the right vehicle for you to express yourself. There are a lot of reasons why ďthe thrill is goneĒ: personal changes, artistic growth, or the discovery of something new and more exciting in your life. Whatever the cause, you canít ďfakeĒ inspiration, and youíll resent your band the more you try.

2. Practice sessions are unproductive.

So, one of the guys is late...again. Another one brings his girlfriend to practice and they spend twenty minutes making out on the sofa. The drummerís cell phone rings three times and he insists he canít turn it off because heís waiting for his roommate to call him with the game score. It is pretty clear that no one is taking things seriously. When people donít take practice seriously, it is a clear indication that the creative energy is low, or worse, non-existent. If your efforts to keep things on track are met with continued lackadaisical attitudes by the other membersóitís probably time to find another home for your talent.

3. There is regular conflict between two or more members.

Everyoneís been here: egos clash, opinions are aired. Itís actually healthy to have some disagreement and dialog in the creative process. But if there is regular conflict between members of the band, the negative energy is only going to stifle the creative process. Not to mention itís a pain in the ass for everyone else to have to set aside practice time only to have it turn into a bad reality television show. If the conflicted members are not interested in resolving their issues, there is only so far youíll ever be able to go as a band.

4. Creativity has come to a standstill.

You may have had a good couple years. Maybe youíve recorded a disc and played a series of shows with success. Youíve built your name in the community and have a following. But now, thereís nothing new and you feel like youíre rehashing the same old same old stuff during practice. There needs to be a serious discussion in the band about new material. If youíre not constantly creating new music, you might as well be a cover band. If itís not happening here, then you might want to find another outlet.

5. You feel that your contributions are being ignoredóor resented.

A band is not a dictatorship. Everyone has a role to play, and everyoneís contribution is important. Thatís not to say that your drummer can come in to practice one day and decide he wants to play lead guitar; but it is important that every member feels comfortable making a contribution and that everyone is able to push themselves in new, exciting directions keeping them stimulated and creative. If you feel that your band mates are trying to keep you in a creative ďboxĒ and resent your efforts to expand your contribution, then you need to decide how long youíre willing to do that before itís time to move on.

6. You have an opportunity to further your career somewhere else.

When youíre in a band, you are part of a team. So when something else comes along, you donít just run off and leave your buddies high and dry. But the bottom line is that your career is your own. If you have an opportunity to do something that will change you life, it is worth considering. Thereís no right or wrong answeróonly you can tell if itís worth taking the risk of leaving your band for another opportunity. Donít automatically discount an offer for something big just because youíre already in a band. Weigh the decision carefully, and if you decide itís worth it, make your choice and stand behind it.

7. Members have started flaking on practice and rehearsal.

Unless youíre independently wealthy, chances are that youíre not only in a band, but you are working to pay your bills; and you have family commitments, relationships, and other responsibilities that are all vying for your time. A band is not meant to be a cult where you shun everything else in your life: members need to be sensitive to one another and not make unrealistic demands on time. However, if someone canít carve out regular quality time to practice with your band, they need to admit it. You canít just show up once a month and play a gig without regular practice.

8. One or more of the members has a serious problem with drugs or booze.

Musicians are famous for their partying, and thereís no reason to expect your band mates to be Quakers. But when someone crosses the line and their drug-use or drinking affects their relationships, their commitments, and their performanceóitís time to take action. If youíre dealing with an addict, you need to talk to a professional about how to approach them. Confronting someone about their addiction is painful for both sides, and the bottom line is that you care about the personóbut you canít let them continue to destroy themselves and take advantage of you and your time. If the band doesnít want to have this conversation with the member who has the problem and doesnít think itís important to address, you are wasting your time. Additionally, if the whole band seems to spend more time partying than practicing; itís time to move on.

9. Thereís not an equal commitment or contribution by all members.

An independent band requires its members to play more than one role. Often you are responsible for your own management, public relations, and marketing. You need everyone to cooperate if youíre going to make it. Itís unfair to expect one or two people to handle all the Ďgruntí work. Thereís no room for a prima donna in a band. If people are slacking and you canít seem to motivate them, you have three choices: continue to put up with it and hope your band magically achieves success; try to convince them to step it up; or leave the band.

10. You canít keep up your end of the bargain.

Youíre the only person who can make this call. If youíre over-extended in your time and energy, or if your energy is being used up by your wedding, a new baby, a job, your PhD or the Boston Marathonóthen you need to admit it to yourself and your band mates. Being in a band isnít supposed to be juts another obligation in your day planner. If thatís what it has become, then you need to seriously reconsider whether or not you should be doing it.
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:19 AM
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Damn Marc I'm upset now I thought this was going to be a joke and no so damn serious this early Monday morning...........
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:49 AM
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OK,OK,OK. I'm 10 for 10. Now what?
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I agree with all these except for number four. Though I personally would prefer to keep on writing, I think that its optional as long as you've already written what you feel is a strong set. Indie bands don't really put out "albums" so to speak. Rarely do you hear some Joe Schmoe local band say "this song's from our fifth album", and when you do it's kinda funny.
Should you decide to keep writing after creating that unstoppable set, of course that's commendable, but it's definitely not a requirement in my opinion.
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some of those hit dangerously close to home. i thought this was gonna be a funny post, dammit.
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Rarely do you hear some Joe Schmoe local band say "this song's from our fifth album", and when you do it's kinda funny.
I would hope that some joe schmoe smucks band would refrain from saying that.
Really who would care?
Each one of our albums usually had one or more songs from the previous cd's rearranged. In that band we had 4. Then the final one was the best of them all with a few new ones added, and all professionally mastered.

It doesn't matter if they think its a strong set, there is always room for that one song that would put them over the top, and become their life long dream of making the big times.



I am 10 for 10. Even though I hate quitting, and quitters.
I am guilty of giving a project more than a fair shake.
In my opinion egos should be left at the door.
The whole band, not just one member should help with writing songs.
In a any band, the sky is the limit unless you are playing with sub par players, they can drag the whole band down into suckdom.
Practice makes perfect, I can't stand people who think they are beyond practicing.
I would like to add one more...

11. Wives and significant others have no right for any say so other than an opinion, and if not wanted by other band members it should be kept to themselves because of the friction it creates.
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Number 11 is the best by far, and the one I'm sure anyone can relate to like none of the others.
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We can make it a joke.............here are mine

1. When all the chicks coming to your show look like they should be in vh1's "I Love the 80's".

2. Your bass player has already slept with all the groupies.

3. The singer has the charisma of a Down's syndrome patient on Ritalin

4. Tie dyes went out of style. Fuck off you hippie.

5. Screaming lyrics that no one can understand. You sound like you have a dick in your mouth. You'd make more money in gay porn.

6. The ultra long 80's metal guitar solo during sound check. No one gives a fuck.

7. The waitress at the bar is your daughter.

8. You feel guilty looking at hot women at the bar 'cause they're younger than your daughter.

9. During guitar solo, you look up in the air with this what the hell is that smell look. The crowd thinks you just shit your pants instead.

10. Everywhere you play the house is either empty or at the first note the crowd leaves the room.
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So now I'm 20 for 20.
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The second number 10 is the truth.

But hell I think everyone can relate to some of these in the band there in now.
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