When a friend in another band...? - Page 2

ambergirl · 04-24-2008, 12:41 PM

honesty is the best policy.

adecou · 04-24-2008, 01:35 PM

Y'all sound like ass... HAHAHHAHA... sorry I picked it just cuz it made me laugh.

But honestly, with Mark, when he has me listen to shit, I'm very honest. Constructive critism is the way to go (right with ya Rox!) because this is their art, ya know... but don't lie... false hope sucks ass

ssspert · 04-24-2008, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adecou

Y'all sound like ass... HAHAHHAHA... sorry I picked it just cuz it made me laugh.

when he has me listen to shit

Not Mark...he doesn't have you listen to bad music.

adecou · 04-24-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssspert

Not Mark...he doesn't have you listen to bad music.

lol...everything is 'shit' to me. I 'buy shit', I need to 'get shit done', I 'hate this shit', and I never 'give a shit' about anything...hahahaha

buzzincuzzin · 04-24-2008, 08:21 PM

I ran into this last week and I broke it down for him. He didn't like it,,, but after he thought about it a while he realized "it" was unfixable with existing personnel so we got really really drunk. THEN!!!!!! Saturday night he showed up at a songwriter showcase I'm doing and we get really really really drunk because he has a veteran part-time band and anybody that would be gig-ready would want to work a little more than that. So he's just stuck. AND when I return from Mullet Toss we have scheduled Tuesday to drink on it some more. Now if I could get that "physician-heal-thy-self" thing down maybe I could sober up some before May.

ssspert · 05-05-2008, 10:28 PM

sounds like its time for him to find a new group to jam with.

ssspert · 05-05-2008, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adecou

lol...everything is 'shit' to me. I 'buy shit', I need to 'get shit done', I 'hate this shit', and I never 'give a shit' about anything...hahahaha

I thought I posted this I guess it got moderated.

ssspert · 05-05-2008, 10:36 PM

I had to give my opinion of a friends "new" band yesterday, and I didn't like anything on the cd I listened to.
I told him that, and he asked me to listen to it some more that it had to grow on you.
I will but...
The whole thing was boring, I had to turn it off about the 3rd song because I was falling asleep.
If it doesn't grab me and makes me say wow. I generally don't like it.
It can be a groovin' bass line or a lead guitar sig lick.
I'm more about the picture the music paints more so than the story the lyrics is supposed to tell.

adecou · 05-06-2008, 01:19 PM

LOL Bert, I felt kinda like him saying that... that's funny you read my mind (quit or you'll be sorry!)

Lerxstcat · 05-06-2008, 11:30 PM

I picked "Y'all need a lot more practice" just so I could see the poll results!

But in reality, the answer would depend on HOW subpar they were. They might really just need a lot more practice, they might just need to polish it up a bit or they might really just sound like ass with no apparent hope for improvement.

In the room I might say something like, "not bad" but I'd do the Roll Eyes of Doom of only my friend could see it. If he started to nut up right then I'd just say, "
Let's talk about it later"

If he's so addicted to the post-show high that he's gonna pout or throw a fit about that, then I'd probably stop going to his shows until he changed his attitude. when he caught on and asked me why I didn't go to his shows anymore, I'd tell him it's because he can't take constructive criticism and I don't want to hurt his feelings.

It also depends on the look on his face when he asks you how it was. If he has that deluded look like he thinks it was good, you'd have to be gentle at least right then. If he's got that downcast look that tells you he's just hoping it wasn't as bad as he thinks it is, then you can be more honest.

Some people think they can make the band by themselves. That can work if everybody else is at last competent and getting at least a decent tone. But if someone really sucks or is even good but just has suck tone, you have to say something. Surprisingly, a lot of decent players think their gear sounds good just because it's their gear. Crate players are susceptible to this because their shit can sou nd pretty good in the bedroom but it doesn't cut through the mix live, or is being pushed to th point that it sounds like ass if you can hear it.

To be fair to Crate, their Blue Voodoo amps can sound pretty damn good for metal with the right tubes. But it's the $400 half-stacks that make their rep bad.

View Poll Results: What do you say?
You guys are the shit! Please don't forget me when ya'll pass up Three doors down, and creed.	1	11.11%
Dude ya'll sound like ass.	2	22.22%
Ya'll need alot more practice.	1	11.11%
Man ya'll need some polishing.	2	22.22%
You should fire everybody, and start over again.	2	22.22%
(what would you say?)	1	11.11%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

04-24-2008, 12:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
ambergirl Productive GCB Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Escatawpa, MS Age: 29 Posts: 1,874 Rep Power: 44	honesty is the best policy. __________________ You've Got Questions. We've Got Ambergirl. www.myspace.com/pajamasakapj

04-24-2008, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
adecou Band Whore Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona Age: 24 Posts: 737 Rep Power: 9	Y'all sound like ass... HAHAHHAHA... sorry I picked it just cuz it made me laugh. But honestly, with Mark, when he has me listen to shit, I'm very honest. Constructive critism is the way to go (right with ya Rox!) because this is their art, ya know... but don't lie... false hope sucks ass __________________ "You're thinking that I'm strange... just think of what I think of you" A Day in the Life of a Musician's Wife My Myspace

05-05-2008, 10:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
ssspert Band Member Productive GCB Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wemo Posts: 1,339 Rep Power: 9	sounds like its time for him to find a new group to jam with. __________________ Straight Shots Myspace page My Myspace Bass page email ME for Straight Shot booking information. GULF COAST MUSIC MAGAZINE Sometimes it doesn't pay to be nice. It pays to be truthful, and honest with yourself.

05-05-2008, 10:36 PM	#18 (permalink)
ssspert Band Member Productive GCB Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wemo Posts: 1,339 Rep Power: 9	I had to give my opinion of a friends "new" band yesterday, and I didn't like anything on the cd I listened to. I told him that, and he asked me to listen to it some more that it had to grow on you. I will but... The whole thing was boring, I had to turn it off about the 3rd song because I was falling asleep. If it doesn't grab me and makes me say wow. I generally don't like it. It can be a groovin' bass line or a lead guitar sig lick. I'm more about the picture the music paints more so than the story the lyrics is supposed to tell. __________________ Straight Shots Myspace page My Myspace Bass page email ME for Straight Shot booking information. GULF COAST MUSIC MAGAZINE Sometimes it doesn't pay to be nice. It pays to be truthful, and honest with yourself.

04-24-2008, 08:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
buzzincuzzin Band Member Screamo for Emo Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 99 Posts: 191 Rep Power: 26	I ran into this last week and I broke it down for him. He didn't like it,,, but after he thought about it a while he realized "it" was unfixable with existing personnel so we got really really drunk. THEN!!!!!! Saturday night he showed up at a songwriter showcase I'm doing and we get really really really drunk because he has a veteran part-time band and anybody that would be gig-ready would want to work a little more than that. So he's just stuck. AND when I return from Mullet Toss we have scheduled Tuesday to drink on it some more. Now if I could get that "physician-heal-thy-self" thing down maybe I could sober up some before May.

05-06-2008, 01:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
adecou Band Whore Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona Age: 24 Posts: 737 Rep Power: 9	LOL Bert, I felt kinda like him saying that... that's funny you read my mind (quit or you'll be sorry!) __________________ "You're thinking that I'm strange... just think of what I think of you" A Day in the Life of a Musician's Wife My Myspace

05-06-2008, 11:30 PM	#20 (permalink)
Lerxstcat Band Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 311 Rep Power: 21	I picked "Y'all need a lot more practice" just so I could see the poll results! But in reality, the answer would depend on HOW subpar they were. They might really just need a lot more practice, they might just need to polish it up a bit or they might really just sound like ass with no apparent hope for improvement. In the room I might say something like, "not bad" but I'd do the Roll Eyes of Doom of only my friend could see it. If he started to nut up right then I'd just say, " Let's talk about it later" If he's so addicted to the post-show high that he's gonna pout or throw a fit about that, then I'd probably stop going to his shows until he changed his attitude. when he caught on and asked me why I didn't go to his shows anymore, I'd tell him it's because he can't take constructive criticism and I don't want to hurt his feelings. It also depends on the look on his face when he asks you how it was. If he has that deluded look like he thinks it was good, you'd have to be gentle at least right then. If he's got that downcast look that tells you he's just hoping it wasn't as bad as he thinks it is, then you can be more honest. Some people think they can make the band by themselves. That can work if everybody else is at last competent and getting at least a decent tone. But if someone really sucks or is even good but just has suck tone, you have to say something. Surprisingly, a lot of decent players think their gear sounds good just because it's their gear. Crate players are susceptible to this because their shit can sou nd pretty good in the bedroom but it doesn't cut through the mix live, or is being pushed to th point that it sounds like ass if you can hear it. To be fair to Crate, their Blue Voodoo amps can sound pretty damn good for metal with the right tubes. But it's the $400 half-stacks that make their rep bad.