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Old 02-27-2008, 11:28 PM
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The Black Crowes vs Maxim Magazine

Open mouth insert both feet.
How can you rate a new cd with out listening to it?
Damned dead lines will kill ya.

Its their first album in 71/2 years. Can ya blame the aging rockers for bitching about the rating?
Maxim says, oops sorry fellas.
Ha ha ha
I like the crowes cuz they rock, and were touring with zz top a while back, and budweiser was the tours sponsor, they came out and said we are sponsored by the black crowes not budweiser. they weren't on that tour very long.

http://music.msn.com/music/article.a...03137&GT1=7702


Maxim Apologizes to Black Crowes
Feb. 27, 2008, 6:18 PM EST
NEW YORK (AP) -- Facing more criticism over rating albums without listening to them, Maxim magazine maintains it was previewing CDs in its March issue, not reviewing them, and the mistake was to include star ratings.

Maxim editorial director James Kaminsky told The Associated Press on Wednesday that the magazine had erred in presenting unreleased albums by The Black Crowes and Nas as reviews and judging them with stars.

"I will be the last person to mince words here: This is a mistake," Kaminsky said. "It's a mistake that won't happen again, but it's not a mistake that appears in other parts of (the magazine's entertainment section). ... There should be no blurry line between what's a preview and what's a review."

The fiasco started last week when the Crowes posted a statement on their Web site lashing out at Maxim for publishing a negative review of their new album "Warpaint" by a writer who hadn't listened to the full disc. The assessment said: "They sound pretty much like they always have: boozy, competent, and in slavish debt to the Stones, the Allmans, and the Faces."

The band said such a verdict — two-and-a-half stars out of five — was impossible since advance copies of the CD, out next Tuesday, weren't made available.

Kaminsky issued a statement apologizing to readers for the write-up and wavering from the magazine's policy of only rating albums that have been heard in their entirety.

Tuesday's mea culpa wasn't enough for the Crowes' manager, Pete Angelus, who later responded that Maxim was doing "self-serving damage control."

"It comes as no surprise that Maxim has elected to apologize to their readers now that the world has been informed of their deception; however, that is not full accountability," Angelus said Tuesday.

In his interview with the AP, Kaminsky officially apologized to the Crowes — and again, to the readers. He said that to his knowledge, this was the first time Maxim had rated an album in a preview, under the heading "Playlist."

"We have often run previews, which are based on the fact that an album is coming out ... but (those in the March issue) should not have had star ratings attached to (them)," he said. "There was a bit of a breakdown that led to that happening and I'm looking into it and, as I've said, we've already put measures in place to ensure that that will not happen again."

Rapper Nas told Wednesday's New York Post that he was surprised that Maxim had given his unfinished album 2 1/2 stars. His representative said it has not been played for anyone, but the "preview" in Maxim described some of the music as "downright radio friendly."

Jason Fine, executive editor of Rolling Stone magazine, said its magazine reviewed the Crowes' "Warpaint" only after listening to it: "We never review a record without hearing the whole thing."

Fine said magazines are hitting roadblocks nowadays since full albums are being held from reviewers because of piracy concerns.

"It's becoming more and more difficult for publications ... to review records because the big records are the most difficult ones to get," he said. "The record labels are increasingly worries about leaks."

Sean Fennessy, associate music editor for Vibe magazine, agreed. Fennessy said Vibe reviewers often attend label-run listening sessions to hear an unreleased album.

The Associated Press does not plan to review the Crowes' disc because it is not being provided prior to the release date.

"Warpaint" is the Black Crowes' first album in seven years. The blues-rock group, fronted by Chris Robinson, has released only one song from the disc, "Goodbye Daughters of the Revolution."

The band's hits include "Hard to Handle" and "She Talks to Angels."

As far as the Crowes' reaction to the controversy, Angelus told the AP on Wednesday: "They don't really read musical reviews. But of course they are very aware of this situation, and you know, they think it's highly unethical."
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You know,

1) Why is Maxim reviewing music?

2)Who reads Maxim (can people who buy Maxim read)?

3) Maxim should stick to what they know, taking pictures of half-dressed women.

4) Who cares if the Black Crowes sound the same, they have always pretty much had the same sound. Anyone expect them to go techno, or industrial? All "classic rock" bands pretty much keep their sound (are the Black Crowes considered classic rock yet? I don't really know when they started, they have just always had that blues/rock sound).

5) Chris Robinson banged Kate Hudson, who has probably appeared in Maxim. Take that Maxim readers!
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Ha ha ha good stuff.

I wish I was a fly on the wall when the editor told this writer to review the cd...
Here is your assignment, and I want it by tomorrow.
The cd isn't out yet, so do the best you can.
writer> the cd isn't out yet how can I be objective?
editor> ehhh just grade em middle of the road listen to their old cd's and compare them.


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No blame here... it is just funny how Maxim bashed them when this guy has plowed one of their girls. She has probably been in Maxim, but I don't know.

Of course the 'Crowes could probably care less.

But yeah, "Review this cd, just say it sucks or something, our readers listen to Nickelback and Solja Boy, they don't care anyway."
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I'd rather not read a writer saying I didn't like it it sucks.
Gotta be more objective.

Did you read the review that Rolling stones gave 3DD last cd 17 days?
Now that was objective LMAO.
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Did you read the review that Rolling stones gave 3DD last cd 17 days?
Now that was objective LMAO.

No... what did it say?

I would imagine that it would read:

The gulf coast region still loves these guys like a new age Lynyrd Skynyrd despite the fact that they play formulaic modern rock and make the same album over and over. Here is hoping that this "superman" does indeed have a "kryptonite!"
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Ha ha close...
"meek, whinier, duller than a donkeys ass"
http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/...edium=CDreview]


here is what RS had to say about the black crowes new cd.

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/...91966/warpaint
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Haha, yeah!
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I liked what Allen Light had to say about the black crowes.
He was objective, and made good points.
You didn't read and think their new cd sucks.
His closing statement was to make sure they didn'y go whining to RS...LOL
"They've now been around as long as some of their own idols were when the Robinsons first started. But with Warpaint, for the first time in a long time, the Black Crowes seem like a band with a future."
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ha ha ha
Read nicelbacks last cd review... Since they are America's fav band...LOL
"All the Right Reasons is so depressing, you're almost glad Kurt's not around to hear it."

http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/..._right_reasons
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