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Old 08-27-2008, 09:35 AM
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Test drove the setup yesterday. So I retrieved my 5150 last night and painstakingly set up this rig with both amps, both cabs and the SKB Pedal board and the A/B switch. Really not happy with the spider, even the clean. So again I am thinking that the 5150 is the better rig no matter what. Just can't replace tubes, no matter how advanced Line6 is. Don't get me wrong the Line6 setup is kicking for recording, can't shake a stick at it. There is no way that I can beat the ease of recording a Line6 product vs a traditional set up. If I want to record the 5150 (with the available equipment I currently own), it would require a mic, a cab, a quiet area, etc...... If I want to record with the Line6 products (Pod XtLive or the Spider III) all I have to do is plug the damn thing into a recording device. The Pod is so easy to record with its set up the most difficult part about recording it is actually playing the guitar. But in a live world it does not matter what tube amp your using, Laney, Ampeg, Mesa, Peavey, Marshall or Vox to name a few; you just can not replace the tube. Previously I was all fired up about using the Spider III for the clean sounds and while it does have a nice clean sound I am seriously leaning toward what a few have said here. Is it worth the extra weight and small real estate on most stages locally. I am saying no right now. I totally forgot about a few settings on the 5150 because I have not used it the way it was designed since 02 when I lived in Ct. While I lived there in "Smoke and Mirrors" as the Lead Gtr I used to be all glass for distortion. I moved back to Ms in 03 and did not start playing Gtr again till around late 04 early 05 and the band I was in really didn't like the 5150 for reasons unknown to me. I then purchased the Pod XtLive after Katrina when we got back together after the storm and basically used the 5150 as a power amp through the clean channel. It was cool but I started following down a seady path of more and more ear candy. Bert can attest to that the many times we played together, I had issues with volume level, guitar hidden under all the effects etc. Bert is really good at what he does and he got me started on the "Less is More" kick again but I still held on to using the XtLive. The band fell apart due to distance we had to travel and a drummer who fell in love with a huge woman, he had no job and just could not afford the traveling. Then I met Aaron around that time period after going through the many Chris bass players. Aaron got me even further into the need for glass in a amp with his setup. I purchased the Spider III because I was spending more time trying to program the XtLive. I saw the Spider III as a easy fix with a easy setup spending more time playing vs programing. I am using the factory setups and no lie that sound great but its a killer sound but its missing something. If you have never ran through a tube amp; its likely you will not understand that statement. With a tube amp you can vary the distortion with the preamp; which you can do with all amps. The difference is when you back off the volume on the gtr while plugged into a tube amp the distortion will also back off and you will get a cleaner sound. On a transistor or digital amp when you back off the volume on your gtr you still have the same level of distortion just at a less volume. So after playing the set up and running the 5150 for a few hours by itself I have decided to us the 5150 with a few older Boss/DOD foot pedals and my crybaby.

In closing I had forgotten how great a tube amp the 5150 is, and how great all tube amps really sound. So if I get on the digital amp with shit loads of effects band wagon again someone please remind me how "Less is More"...
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:38 AM
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You should have seen the Biloxi shows in the L.A. days when Clyde typically had 4 or 5 full Marshall stacks onstage. His motto was "More is more" in those days..... it was the 80s and early 90s after all!
Clyde sounds like a really cool guy, I bet I met him back in the late 70's and early 80's when I was playing in this area before joining the military. Evry person who knew him has said nothing but kind words about him. It sounds like the Coast lost a very important person when he passed.
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Clyde sounds like a really cool guy, I bet I met him back in the late 70's and early 80's when I was playing in this area before joining the military. Evry person who knew him has said nothing but kind words about him. It sounds like the Coast lost a very important person when he passed.

You probably did; in the late 70s and early 80s he was in bands like Icarus, Razor (his first band as a singer - who knew?), then Five Miles High. If you know Del Stockstill, he was Clyde's replacement in Five Miles High. After FMH he formed Premier. I was in lineups of Icarus and Premier with him, we basically learned to play together as teenagers.

He really was a very cool guy too. From the day I met him when I was 15 and he was 14, to the day he passed away, he still had that enthusiasm like a kid in a candy store about music. He was the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet, would do pretty much anything to help anyone.

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