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Old 09-26-2007, 12:12 AM
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:32 AM
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The problem is this. People are demanding that these thugs should be freed for nearly beating a kid to death. While I agree that attempted murder is a little overboard, there's no way the Jenna 6 should freed.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:49 AM
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Ok guitarest I THINK we agree. I believe that racists are everywhere. They are the minority but they are not confined to the South. I was responding to your assertion that race relations are so much better in the North. They are not!

But in a later post you said , "The white kids should have never made a noose. The black kids should have never beat the shit out of the white kids (although the little shits deserved it)."

Oh is that so? You do realize that the white kid who got beat up (Justin Barker) had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the nooses hanging from the tree THREE MONTHS BEFORE!!!! So I guess all white people should have the shit beat out of them for ANY RACIST ACT of any OTHER white person within the last three months????

As for the attempted 2nd degree murder charges are you people living in a cave or what?

Prosecutors ALMOST ALWAYS charge everything they can think of that might fit the facts. The main assailant (Bell) already has a lengthy criminal record. In fact when this took place, Bell was on PROBATION for another assualt. And finally when the local DA ran the charges by the US District Attorney for that region (a black man) the US District Attorney AGREED!!!
This was not motivated by racism. It was motivated by a desire shared by pretty much ALL DA's to put thugs in jail. The SYSTEM actually worked in that the attempted murder charges fell away.

And yes, these THUGS should go to jail.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:24 PM
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I completely agree, Wil. And I'm getting sick of ignorant people pretending that this case has anything to do with Civil Rights. I watch CNN and they're all over this story, treating the Jenna 6 like victims.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:02 PM
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1. the hanging of the nooses CAUSED the black people to beat the shit out of the white kid.
2. The hanging of the nooses JUSTIFIED the beating of the white kid

I dont' see what the big deal with leaving a noose near a black person is.

Its a piece of rope, not a burning cross.

First in Jena, La. and then in the Coast Guard cadet school.

What if the idiot that left it tied a bowline or a square knot ? Is it still a threat ?

I find it difficult that someone would take it as an insult, even further, that the idiot that left it there would think that someone else would think it was a threat.
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Here are six more "civil rights heroes" in action.

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I dont' see what the big deal with leaving a noose near a black person is.

Its a piece of rope, not a burning cross.

First in Jena, La. and then in the Coast Guard cadet school.

What if the idiot that left it tied a bowline or a square knot ? Is it still a threat ?

I find it difficult that someone would take it as an insult, even further, that the idiot that left it there would think that someone else would think it was a threat.
Well, to be fair, they lynched a lot of black men in Louisiana back in the old days, so the noose is a strong signal. It pretty much means the same as or worse than a burning cross in that context.
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What if the idiot that left it tied a bowline or a square knot ? Is it still a threat ?

I find it difficult that someone would take it as an insult, even further, that the idiot that left it there would think that someone else would think it was a threat.

EXACTLY! Here's my take on it.

When I moved to Mississippi from Reno, Nevada, the racism that I saw ore visible than anything was the black to white racism. I sat down at a "black table" at OSHS and the whole table acted like I was crazy or something.

Growing up in that kind of situation would make WHITE people MORE inclined to be racist toward the black. Am I wrong? I think it's just a vicous cycle...but Al Sharpton and his clowns are making it far worse, not better. The cycle has to be broken, which means THEY have to stop playing the race card.

As far as the Jena 6... the white guy had nothing to do with the noose so it shouldn't even be relavent in the first place. And who knows what really was the intent of that noose... did it say anything around it? no. It was just there. Now if the "n-" word was smeared across the wall or something... but honestly, it could mean so many different things in history.
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EXACTLY! Here's my take on it.

When I moved to Mississippi from Reno, Nevada, the racism that I saw ore visible than anything was the black to white racism. I sat down at a "black table" at OSHS and the whole table acted like I was crazy or something.

Growing up in that kind of situation would make WHITE people MORE inclined to be racist toward the black. Am I wrong? I think it's just a vicous cycle...but Al Sharpton and his clowns are making it far worse, not better. The cycle has to be broken, which means THEY have to stop playing the race card.

As far as the Jena 6... the white guy had nothing to do with the noose so it shouldn't even be relavent in the first place. And who knows what really was the intent of that noose... did it say anything around it? no. It was just there. Now if the "n-" word was smeared across the wall or something... but honestly, it could mean so many different things in history.
Maybe it's my age, or maybe that I grew up here in Mississippi, but as I said above, a noose under the "white tree" is pretty unmistakable as a threat to the blacks.

Again, lynchings of blacks were pretty common in the years leading up to the 1960s in the South. I know someone who witnessed a lynching in the late 60s in Louisiana when he was just 4 or 5 years old, so there are plenty of people who still remember these things. And naturally blacks remember it much better than whites.

Like I said, I resent those who portray all Southern whites as racist. That's far from the case. But if you don't realize that the noose IS an overt threat to blacks in the South, I'm here to tell you that it is. And the kids who put those nooses there knew it too.

I'm not for the Jena 6 going free, but we shouldn't ignore that those nooses were a pretty fucked up thing to do. There's no doubt at all that they meant "N*****, keep away".
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Old 09-28-2007, 04:07 PM
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I didn't grow up with that. I grew up very multi-cultured.

Yeah, you're right...It is obvious, but it's ridiculous.

If we want to stop racism, it has to stop on all sides. The African American groups are doing it to themselves now... they're alienating those that once supported them by going too far. There was a time when it was difficult for an African American to have the same opportunity to go to college as a white man would... but now they've over-corrected and it's EASIER for an African Amercian to go to college... but they're STILL not happy!
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