Just another example of the "peaceful" religion of Islam at work. How many examples do I have to give before you will admit Islam is not "peaceful"?

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08092007...yoav_gonen.htm

So to those ADD'ers who won't read the article it goes like this. Some people (liberals no doubt) in NYC decided to start a school. From the article:

"The academy is slated to open next month as the city's first Arabic-themed small school, serving grades six through 12. It is designed to teach students of all backgrounds about the Arabic language and culture, devoid of religion - a concept that Weingarten said she backed."



As away of saying "thank you" the muslims started wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the slogan "Infitadah NYC". (Infitadah refers to the Palestinian "holy war" against Israel in which Palestinians use suicide bombers killing innocents to further their ideology). Just in case one were to thing these were the actions of "rogue" students, the school's PRINCIPAL supported the T-shirts. The principal was forced by a fire storm of controversy to back down the next day to which the liberal replied,

""I'm glad she apologized quickly, but this is the kind of thing that you immediately say, 'No. People shouldn't have T-shirts like that. That's warmongering. That's preaching,' " said Weingarten.

OK liberals out there, how many times does someone have to say they are going to kill you and actually attempt to do so BEFORE you realize, hey these people don't feel too "peaceful" to me???????

I know a few Muslims personally. Those t-shirt wearing people are nothing like the ones I know.

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Are those few you know actually CONDEMNING this kind of shit or do they (like their leadership) reserve their condemnation for Danish cartoons?

Are they condemning the actions of CAIR (allegedly the Council on American Islamic Relations) when CAIR SUES the passengers of an airliner who had the nerve to report suspicious activity?

I've had friends who were muslim also but I've gotten to the point where I WILL NOT give them a pass for failing to criticize savagery perpetrated in their religion's name. It's like if I had a friend who was Ayran Nations (and I did) I would question them on HOW they could hate all other races.

Not really, but, I may have convinced one that the Israel/Palestine conflict has nothing to do with the establishment of the Palestian state and more about Arab hatred of Jews.
We rarely talk about politics. They realize how radicals are trying to use religion to serve their political goals.
As for expecting them to speak out or condemn-what's the point? Everytime a W.A.S.P. like myself screws up-should I feel the need to get out and protest? Or, can I just curse them under my breath?

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Mikael,
It's rare that I discuss with anyone politics, race or religion because it causes such controversy. I was married to a Roman Catholic for 13 yrs+ born in England and we never agreed on religion but we came to a conclusion that we'd never speak about any of those subjects. His father was a f*cking racist and I grew up as a Christian Scientist. We f*cking love everyone! I can't think of the word that I want to say right now. But you know what darlin', I don't think in the rules, they have not granted or denied you the use of your opinion. And God bless America for that! *hug*s Penelope

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Well Mikael most of us don't talk politics in our everyday lives because it is too polarizing and I'm not saying that I (or you) should be demanding loyalty oaths of every Muslim we see.

But given the FACT, that a sizable number of muslims protest everytime anything (whether it be danish cartoons or MYTHS about flushing a Koran down the toilet) offends them, it would be nice to see them get 'offended" by the heinous acts carried out in their religion's name.

I mean somehow blowing up a pizza parlor full of kids and women is more "offensive" to me than ANYTHING you could do to a bible/koran/ any other holy book.

And just an afterthought.... Is there any religion offensive enough to your sensibilities that you might feel compelled to ask one of it's adherents WHY they believed?

Above I gave the example of Ayran Nations. I once worked with a guy who his first day on the job proudly announced he was Ayran Nations to our black cook. I couldn't help myself. After stopping the cook from beating his ass I had to ask, "how can you believe that shit?" (now he was asking for it, someone else I probably would have asked in a more diplomatic manner). He said he had joined in prison because he had to to survive but at that point (he was out of prison) he was a true believer because in his experience the other races were "shitty".

The point being at some point when a "religion's" atrocities start adding up don't you want to know WHY its adherents believe as they do?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=57119

The school that started this thread will apparently be drawing "students" from the radical mosque that gave us the "blind Sheik" and the first World Trade Center bombing back in 1993. This is apparently too much for many New yorkers who feel that their tax dollars should not be going to sponsor a madrassa (aka terrorist training center).

Which of course raised this question to me: Are there any other schools in the country that are funded by TAX DOLLARS that promote another religion/culture?

I mean the courts have been pretty specific about not allowing tax dollars to fund CHRISTIAN activities at school so does anyone know of any examples of tax dollar paid for schools based on other cultures/religion.

Also, if this school is truly ARABIC are our tax dollars sponsoring the SUBSERVIENCE of women?

aahhhh, excellent point will....the seperation of church and state goes for all churches. maybe it should seperation religion and state. however just covering the bases here, in bushs first term, he did set up help for faith based organizations and initiatives. im totally against this as well....if an organization is going to be tax exempt, it shouldnt be able to get aid from the govt, and thats regardless of the faith.

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Well quite frankly, I don't think any church should be tax exempt. What is the public purpose of them being tax exempt?

But this is a SCHOOL allegedly, and I was wondering does anyone know of any other schools that promote other cultures/religions (and don't fool yourself. This is promoting a religion no matter what they say) that are funded with tax dollars? I know several PRIVATE schools that do but what about TAX PAYER FUNDED?

just so were clear here will, the planets have once again come to a standstill because you and me agree on this issue. a tax payer funded school should not be promoting or accomadate, maybe thats not the proper wording, a specific religion. see the seperation of church and state works 2 ways. it tries to ensure that the church cant influence or control a public office, but it also tries to ensure that the state cant influence or control the church. as for your question, i cant think of any specifics. so with that said, if certain students want to get together and pray amongst themselves, no matter what religion they subscribe to, the school should not be able to prohibit them. but also the publicly funded school should not be promoting or enforcing a prayer or doctrine on its students either. it really does work both ways.

this school shouldnt stop the muslims students from observing their relgious customs, but it shouldnt be making any special rules or menus and such that they wouldnt for other students

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