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Old 11-07-2007, 05:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Muslim Cleric on "How to beat your wife"

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1594.htm

here's a video link.

here's the relevant section of what the muslim cleric said

"First, 'admonish them' – once, twice, three times, four times, 10 times. If this doesn't help, 'refuse to share their beds.' In such a case, the husband does not sleep with his wife, or, in other words, he is angry with her. He gives her the silent treatment, refusing to talk to her. If he comes to eat, and she asks him: 'How are you?' – he doesn't answer. If she asks him: 'Do you want anything?' – he doesn't answer. He distances himself from her in bed and in conversation; he does not sleep with her, but goes to sleep in another room. He shows her that he is angry with her," the cleric said.

"Then, he added, "If this does not help – if the admonishing does no good, and when he goes to sleep in another room, she says: 'Thank God he's gone. Now I've got the whole bed to myself, I will sleep alone in bed and roll over at night as much as I like.' If neither method works with her, what is the third option?"

The video shows a guest saying, "And beat them."

"That's right," said Al-'Arifi, "How is this beating performed? What do you think?"

"Light beatings," the guest said.

"Light beatings in what way?" Al-'Arifi asked.

"For example, I wouldn't beat her in the face...," the guest said.

The cleric said such beatings are forbidden, "even when it comes to animals.

"When a person is beating an animal … Even if you want your camel or donkey to start walking, you are not allowed to beat it in the face. If this is true for animals, it is all the more true when it comes to humans. So beatings should be light and not in the face," the cleric said.

He continued, "Some religious scholars say: 'He should beat her with a toothpick.' I happen to have a toothpick with me. A man who is angry with his wife because she doesn't get it... If he says to her: 'Watch out, the child has fallen next to the stove,' or: 'Move the child away from the electrical socket,' and she says: 'I am busy' – then he beats her with a toothpick or something like it. He doesn't beat her with a bottle of water, a plate, or a knife. This is forbidden. The scholars said he should beat her with a toothpick."

The cleric told the young Muslims beating a wife "is not to inflict pain. … A donkey understands nothing but beatings, but a woman, a man, a child, and so on, are generally more affected by emotions than by others things."

"If you beat her with a toothpick, or if you beat her lightly with your hand, and so on, it is meant to convey: 'Woman, it has gone too far. I can't bear it anymore.' If he beats her, the beatings must be light and must not make her face ugly. He must beat her where it will not leave marks. He should not beat her on the hand... He should beat her in some places where it will not cause any damage. He should not beat her like he would beat an animal or a child – slapping them right and left. Unfortunately, many husbands beat their wives only when they get mad, and when they start beating, it as if they are punching a wall – they beat with their hands, right and left, and sometimes use their feet. … He must not do this."



At this point I expect to be accused of "hating on Islam", but surely I'm not the only one who has a problem with this......

Oh, and BTW, the "not sharing their beds" doesn't work!!!
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