thomas jefferson owned a quran

junkernaut · 01-03-2007, 05:50 PM

and keith ellison, the first muslim to be elected to congress is going to use it to be sworn in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070103/.../ellison_quran

Julie · 01-03-2007, 06:38 PM

"Last month, Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., warned that unless immigration is tightened, "many more Muslims" will be elected and follow Ellison's lead. Ellison was born in Detroit and converted to Islam in college."

That cracks me up.

Warning: Unless people know who they are voting for, many more idiots will be elected.

Overall, that makes me very happy that a Muslim was elected. I remember growing up, being taught how wonderful America was with all its diversity, freedom of religion, etc. Now I am somewhat ashamed as it seems no one has paid attention.

Just today I got an email from a friend of mine in England, asking if I could help a friend of his whom recently moved to America... Mobile, of all places... and she is having the hardest time finding a job. She is Muslim and highly educated, holding several degrees and has much job experience. She then began applying for jobs for which she is obviously overqualified for... and still nothing. She applied online with a temp service here in Mobile and they called her immediately upon receiving her resume, saying they have a job for her and could place her as soon as the next day... she just had to come to the temp agency and fill out the appropriate paperwork. She was at the agency within 30 minutes... but as soon as they saw she was Muslim, they said the job had been filled and they have nothing else to offer her. Goodbye and have a nice day.

How can I not feel ashamed of my own country? A country which was built by immigrants, some seeking freedom of religion, others looking for a better way of life. Where is this freedom of religion we all heard about? Where is this better life we keep bragging about? Is it any wonder why other countries and religions view America as a hypocritical demon?

Disclaimer: I'm under the weather at the moment and during these times I have a tendency to "go off at the mouth".

Paul_of_ManDown136 · 01-03-2007, 07:01 PM

Ellison was born in the U.S., to boot.

Some people are stupid.

Mikael · 01-03-2007, 08:05 PM

Anyone who took the time to read the Qu'ran would find out that it has a lot in common with the Bible. In fact, Mary is mentioned more often in the Qu'ran than she is in the Bible.

Mikael · 01-05-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Spert

Thats kinda weird considering that muslim men don't have much respect for women.

Actually they do. They are VERY protective of women. The reason Muslim women dress the way they do is supposed to be for their own protection-you know, from rapists and harassment.
And something most people don't know is the fact that the Qu'ran is one of the first, if not THE first written document granting women's rights and the right to divorce their husbands.
It's true most of the Muslim world today is very oppressive of women-but that's not the way it way it was supposed to be. And things are changing. Women in Iran actually dress pretty damn sexy.

Mikael · 01-05-2007, 01:03 AM

An afterthought: How long has it taken for Christians to give women rights? Islam became a religion over 600 years after Christ's birth-they do have some catching up to do.

banre · 01-05-2007, 09:51 AM

Julie, is your friend in IT by any chance? If she has any professional Microsoft programming experience (VB6 or .NET), shoot me a PM with some details. The company I work for is hiring on some contractors for at least six months.

Julie · 01-05-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by banre

Julie, is your friend in IT by any chance? If she has any professional Microsoft programming experience (VB6 or .NET), shoot me a PM with some details. The company I work for is hiring on some contractors for at least six months.

I don't think so... but let me ask. Stay tuned...!

Mikael · 01-05-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spert

I'm all about equal rights for women. They are definately under paid in the working class.

Why all of the interest in christianity there Michael?
You going to church out there?

Just a lot of free time to read wikipedia!

Julie · 01-05-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikael

Just a lot of free time to read wikipedia!

Knowledge is power!

Wikipedia rocks! I can get lost on there for hours as I keep opening new tabs while doing research... or just poking around. No wonder I barely make my deadlines. Teehee.

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