Why won't Hillary Release her White House Papers?

wilthrill · #1 (**permalink**) 08-15-2007, 06:50 PM

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...ton-Papers.php

Now I thought you guys hated Karl "Darth Vader" Rove and Dead-eye Dick Cheney because they are so "secretive"?

So what about this? Keep in mind that Hillary is running on her record a large part of which is as former first lady!!!

Mikael · #2 (**permalink**) 08-17-2007, 08:28 PM

You're kidding, right? Cheney and the Neocons won't release theirs, and now that Hillary is running you think it makes her look bad not to release hers? Just looks like more of the same to me. Why buy into these trivial issues my friend?

wilthrill · #3 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 10:27 AM

Whoa there partner.....

If you are talking about when Cheney was claiming the VP wasn't part of the Executive branch and thus didn't have to answer to congress, you should remember that I BLASTED THE SOB on this very board for that!!!!

But, even so, Cheney isn't running for president. We have a candidate running for president largely based on her experience as First Lady. And she will take the credit won't she? That's right, she doesn't object at all when people talk about how EXPERIENCED she is in foreign affairs etc. She didn't get that experience in the Senate because she has done absolutely NOTHING in the Senate.

So she is bragging about her experience all the while she won't allow us to see WHAT she did when she was allegedly gaining that experience??? And at the same time she continually harps on about how Bush is "secretive"???

Bush didn't have 900 FBI files in his basement.

Bush didn't order investigators OUT OF HIS OFFICE while the DEATH of the white house attorney was being investigated.

Bush didn't have files that were subpoenaed in a civil case suddenly "appear" in his bedroom two years AFTER the case.

Bush didn't "secretly fire and attempt to SLANDER" the white house travel office so he could put his buddies in those spots.

Bush is a rank amateur in the secrecy sweepstakes compared to Hillary.

wilthrill · #4 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 10:56 AM

http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNew...opNews&rpc=451

From the article: "I don't think Karl Rove's going to endorse me," Clinton told the audience at the debate, which was aired by ABC News' "This Week" program. "But I find it interesting he's so obsessed with me. And I think the reason is because we know how to win."

THIS is what I'm talking about. Hillary is so full of SHIT!!!! OK, I heard the Rush Limbaugh show on which Karl Rove made his remarks. Rove was ASKED about Hillary to which he replied that he thought her fatally flawed due to her high negatives. He then spent roughly THIRTY SECONDS citing examples.

NEWSFLASH to Hillary: THAT IS BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION an example of Karl Rove being "OBSSESSED" with you. He answered a direct question about YOU. That, in no way, shows an "obssession". It is also not strange at all that when a political strategist announces his retirement someone MIGHT actually ask him what he thinks of the competition. As Hillary is the front runner her name would naturally come up.

Wake the fuck up Thunderthighs! NO ONE IS OBSESSED WITH YOU even your horndog alleged husband.

Mikael · #5 (**permalink**) 08-27-2007, 09:54 PM

Yes, Wil, you did blast Cheney on that issue. But, there's also his energy dept. meetings in question. Mrs. C is running for president. But, by the same token, Mr. Cheney is using the "executive privilege" to cover his own ass.

wilthrill · #6 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 10:58 AM

Yes I did and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with it but for god's sake Mikael don't you have a sense of proportion?

CHENEY IS A RANK AMATEUR IN THE SECRECY SWEEPSTAKES COMPARED TO CLINTON!!! You mention TWO examples of Cheney's secrecy. I can (and will shortly) mention a LOT MORE examples of Hillary's skullduggery/illegal conduct and that is off the top of my head and I just woke up.

You see in my lifetime I have NEVER SEEN SUCH A FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED candidate who has gotten such a free pass from the drive-by media as Hillary and I am including Bill in that statement. And I'm going to illustrate that for you although I don't have all day so by necessity I will leave A LOT of Hillary's bad shit out.

Now imagine you had a REPUBLICAN candidate. I'm going to list a few "issues" and I want you to answer if the drive-bys would be questioning the REPUBLICAN about them:

REPUBLICAN held 9 MONTHS of secret meetings in violation of federal law concerning a proposed program that would fundamentally change how we do health care in this country.

REPUBLICAN barred investigators (in the investigation of the "suicide" of a high ranking white house official who was inextricably linked to REPUBLICAN) from REPUBLICAN's office which contained documents relating to the investigation.

REPUBLICAN arranges the pardon for 17 Puerto Rican TERRORISTS who had MURDERED NYC COPS in the MIDDLE of REPUBLICAN'S Senate campaign when REPUBLICAN is trying to woo Puerto Rican voters.

REPUBLICAN is involved in a cattle futures deal where he makes a MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE rate of return.

REPUBLICAN has 900 FBI files of enemies in his basement!!!!

You guys want to talk about malfeasance? And yet you talk about Cheney while Queen Malfeasance gets a pass???

You know if you support the DEVIL, you shouldn't be calling OTHERS satanic!!!

wilthrill · #7 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 11:48 AM

Mikael, here is yet another example.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...la-home-center

From the article:

Since 2004, one Norman Hsu has been carving out a prominent place of honor among Democratic fundraisers. He has funneled hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions into party coffers, much of it earmarked for presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York....

He earned a place in the Clinton campaign's "HillRaiser" group by pledging to raise more than $100,000 for her presidential bid....

One example of the kind of first-time donors Hsu has worked with is the Paw family of Daly City, Calif., which is headed by William Paw, a mail carrier, and his wife, Alice, who is listed as a homemaker.

The Paws -- seven adults, most of whom live together in a small house near San Francisco International Airport -- apparently had never donated to national candidates until 2004. Over a three-year period, they gave $213,000, including $55,000 to Clinton and $14,000 to candidates for state-level offices in New York.

Now Mikael, don't you think an appropriate question for Ms Clinton might be, "how is it that a MAIL CARRIER and his stay-at-home wife were able to "donate" $213,000 to the Democrats and $55,000 to Hillary in the space of three years?"

I'LL BET THE FARM, Ms Clinton is NEVER asked such a question by the press!!!!!

I'd bet more than that that if it were say Fred Thompsom or ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN, the drive-bys would be doing primetime specials on corruption in politics.

alex 101 · #8 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 11:56 AM

his income was listed at $49,000. he's a wanted fugitive. sounds like someone's trying to buy a pardon. wil the fundamentally flawed statement sounds just like sean hannity.

wilthrill · #9 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 06:51 PM

The "fundamentally flawed" statement is a direct quote of Karl Rove (known as this board as the DEVIL). The fact that more than one person would use an obvious term to describe Ms Clinton isn't that shocking to you is it? For example if you say Michael Vick is cruel to dogs is it a valid defense of Mr Vick if I point out that Katy Couric said the same phrase when describing Mr Vick, therefore you must be some mind-numb robot of Ms Couric?

I assume you are talking about Norman Hsu (the guy arranging the ILLEGAL donations to Hillary's campaign) when you say he is attempting to buy a pardon. If so he waited ONE ADMINISTRATION too late because Bush's predecessor would have had NO PROBLEM selling him a pardon.

But still you miss the issue, which is WHY DOES HILLARY GET A FREE PASS from the drive-by media on this and all the other issues I've listed?

alex 101 · #10 (**permalink**) 08-29-2007, 08:37 PM

you're correct. i did mean norman hsu. i'm not defending hillary in any way. her track record speaks volumes even without said documents.