WILL AL-QAEDA HIT US WITH A NUCLEAR STRIKE?

Cherry-Bomb Productions · 12-29-2006, 11:34 AM

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

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http://www.revelations.org.za/Islam.htm

Mikael · 12-29-2006, 06:47 PM

http://www.revelations.org.za/Islam.htm ...Horseshit. Islam is NOT the opposite of either Christianity or Judaism. That website is full of political and religious ignorance.
I won't deny the fact that there are Muslim radicals who want to harm us. But, their beliefs are rooted in the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood, and not TRUE Muslims.
There are Jews who want the American public to believe that Israel has the right to evict and kill Palestinians in self-defense even though Israel was only a county again in 1948-after disentagrating over a thousand years before.
There are Christians who believe that the only way Christ will return to Earth is after the Jews rebuild Soloman's Temple. It's horseshit. True Christians know that when Christ returns "no one will know the hour".
So my point is, the Jews feel entitled to Israel after all this time and will do anything to impose their will (Zionism), and Christians are using the Jews to fulfill their prophecies...Of course the Muslims are using each other in radical ways to serve their own ends.
It's quite a vicious circle.

wilthrill · 01-30-2007, 04:02 PM

"I won't deny the fact that there are Muslim radicals who want to harm us. But, their beliefs are rooted in the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood, and not TRUE Muslims." Mikael

First of all, hello again Mikael. I believe we have debated in the past.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is this "muslim brotherhood" you speak of?

Secondly, would you not agree with the statement that literally millions of muslims want us dead? Sure there are millions who don't but they, by their silence, are refusing to become part of the solution and we still have to deal with the millions who do. Mymood Ineedajihad (crazy ass president of Iran) is just one example of a muslim LEADER backed up by literally tens of millions of followers who will come right out and say he wants us dead. Do you not believe him?

You compare Islam to Judaism and Christianity but can you give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE of a prominent christian/jew who is calling for the annihilation of all non-christians or non-jews?

Mikael · 01-31-2007, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wilthrill

"I won't deny the fact that there are Muslim radicals who want to harm us. But, their beliefs are rooted in the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood, and not TRUE Muslims." Mikael

First of all, hello again Mikael. I believe we have debated in the past.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is this "muslim brotherhood" you speak of?

Secondly, would you not agree with the statement that literally millions of muslims want us dead? Sure there are millions who don't but they, by their silence, are refusing to become part of the solution and we still have to deal with the millions who do. Mymood Ineedajihad (crazy ass president of Iran) is just one example of a muslim LEADER backed up by literally tens of millions of followers who will come right out and say he wants us dead. Do you not believe him?

You compare Islam to Judaism and Christianity but can you give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE of a prominent christian/jew who is calling for the annihilation of all non-christians or non-jews?

Welcome back, Wilthrill, it's gotten boring here without you!
Pat Robertson has in the past called for foreign leaders to be taken out. Not very Christian. Jews in Israel are calling for the destruction of every non-Jew on a daily basis. The deafening silence you hear from the Muslim world about peaceful coexistance is because Muslims are only covered in the news when they blow something up.

Paul_of_ManDown136 · 01-31-2007, 06:54 PM

I hear a lot of christian slash rednecks say, "Kill 'em all", in reference to muslims, but none of them are prominent.

wilthrill · 02-02-2007, 09:31 AM

Jews in Israel are calling for the destruction of every non-Jew on a daily basis." Mikael

Perhaps you'd like to take the opportunity to back that statement up with some attributation, Mikael because I've never heard anything of the sort. I've heard Jews say that the arabs should be kicked out of Israel but that is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from saying they should be killed.

Basically, Mikael it comes down to this. You have extremists in every religion. Take christianity for example. You have "christians" who believe that if you don't accept Christ (aka become a christian) then you will burn in hell!!! Sounds pretty extreme doesn't it. But EVEN THEY will tell you that GOD is the one who will judge you. In other words, in this life everyone must make choices and in the NEXT LIFE they will pay for those choices.

My problem with Islam, is that they are the ONLY MAJOR religion whose zealots say "WE, NOT GOD, WILL JUDGE YOU!!! We, in this life, will exterminate those with which we disagree." Their preachers daily mount the pulpit and tell their followers that it is their duty to purge the Earth of infidels (aka non-muslims). THIS is by definition an INTOLERANT religion as practiced by the Islamofacists and unforetunately the Muslims that I can get along with (aka non-terrorists) AND the mainstream media are too gutless to criticize the Islamofacists. Mymood Ineedajihad (aka crazy-assed Islamofacist leader of Iran) should be the daily subject of ridicule and scorn. He should be too afraid of the criticism of the press to even think about doing an interview. He should be a laughing-stock fool joke. Instead Mike Wallace does a kiss-his-ass interview with him on Sixty Minutes.

And the sad part is that we WILL HAVE to deal with the Islamofacists. It is us or them. You know in 1938 if the world would have dealt with Hitler (Hitler himself admitted that Britain and France could have stopped him before Munich), we could have saved roughly twenty million lives. We are making the same mistake with the Islamofacists and will probably pay a heavier price by not doing what is neccessary now!!!

The Good Reverend, MATCHEW · 02-02-2007, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_of_ManDown136

I hear a lot of christian slash rednecks say, "Kill 'em all", in reference to muslims, but none of them are prominent.

You need to take this more seriously, Paul

By the way,
sorry I missed yall last weekend. I had to go to a funeral. sad.

Mikael · 02-02-2007, 01:37 PM

Some good points, wilthrill. We've been over this issue in tons of other posts and don't seem to get anywhere with it, though.
Yes some Muslims think it is their duty to wage holy war on anyone who doesn't believe the same way they do. The Catholic church was the same way before the modern age. But, just like the Catholic church, there are moderates in Islam. Off hand, I cannot think of one country on the planet that is ruled by Sharia (Islamic religious law). If most Muslims were fanatical, you'd think most of them wouldn't be semi-democratic.
I hope you realize that there are Jews who live in other countries besides Israel in the middle east. Same with Christians. And as stated in the Qu'ran, they are NOT subject to Islamic law, but rather the law of their own faith. Afghanistan was definately the worst of the worst when it comes to representing the Islamic faith.
Make a Muslim friend, you'll learn a lot. They're not all the same-just like we aren't.

Mikael · 02-02-2007, 02:32 PM

If you get the time, you may want to check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXPErmLLeo0
There are a series of 5 min. videos about Islam.

wilthrill · 02-02-2007, 04:16 PM

"The Catholic church was the same way before the modern age. But, just like the Catholic church, there are moderates in Islam." Mikael

Thank you for making my point. Catholism WAS like that BEFORE the modern age. The problem is the Islamofacists are like that TODAY!!!

"If most Muslims were fanatical, you'd think most of them wouldn't be semi-democratic. " Mikael

I never said MOST mulsims were like that. In fact, I use the word "Islamofacists" to describe the ones who are fanatical. They are NOT the majority BUT there are tens of millions of them and they do present a problem even if we pretend they don't. (you know, generally speaking, when a man says he's going to kill you and is making preparations to do that, you should take him at his word)

I don't blame all muslims for the terrorist actions of the Islamofacists. I DO however blame all muslims for their SILENCE! EVERY TIME one of the terrorist actions are carried out we should see mainstream Muslims CONDEMNING it! And yet we don't. We should see tens of thousands of them in the street condemning it and yet the ONLY time we see tens of thousands of muslims in the street is when they are rioting over a Danish cartoon or chanting "death to america". Please prove me wrong and give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE to the contrary.

Instead we have groups like CAIR (counsel on Islamic relations) criticizing US when 6 imans acting like terrorists are pulled from a plane. CAIR is trying to sue United Airlines when, in fact, there were probably muslims on that flight that were PROTECTED by United's actions (and BTW EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER on that plane, excluding the imans of course, supported United's actions). But CAIR would rather support the fanatics (and yes those 6 imans were fanatics) than the everyday people on that plane. And after THAT, I'm supposed to feel sorry for them????

I'm sorry but they've worn out my patience. When I see tens of thousands of muslims in the streets demonstrating against terrorism, I'll rethink my view. But I'm not holding my breath.

PS why does this site continually kick me off? EVERY time I spend more than two minutes composing a post I have to log in again to post it.

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Mikael Band Member Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Down In a Hole Posts: 905 Rep Power: 43	http://www.revelations.org.za/Islam.htm ...Horseshit. Islam is NOT the opposite of either Christianity or Judaism. That website is full of political and religious ignorance. I won't deny the fact that there are Muslim radicals who want to harm us. But, their beliefs are rooted in the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood, and not TRUE Muslims. There are Jews who want the American public to believe that Israel has the right to evict and kill Palestinians in self-defense even though Israel was only a county again in 1948-after disentagrating over a thousand years before. There are Christians who believe that the only way Christ will return to Earth is after the Jews rebuild Soloman's Temple. It's horseshit. True Christians know that when Christ returns "no one will know the hour". So my point is, the Jews feel entitled to Israel after all this time and will do anything to impose their will (Zionism), and Christians are using the Jews to fulfill their prophecies...Of course the Muslims are using each other in radical ways to serve their own ends. It's quite a vicious circle. __________________ I just saved a ton of money on car insurance by switching to no car insurance!!! www.myspace.com/13468360

01-31-2007, 06:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Paul_of_ManDown136 Band Member Band Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Age: 21 Posts: 258 Rep Power: 31	I hear a lot of christian slash rednecks say, "Kill 'em all", in reference to muslims, but none of them are prominent. __________________ Music is meant to pave new roads while paying homage to those who came before us, unique and with the spirit of the old gods. www.myspace.com/mandownofmobile www.myspace.com/paulofmandown

02-02-2007, 01:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mikael Band Member Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Down In a Hole Posts: 905 Rep Power: 43	Some good points, wilthrill. We've been over this issue in tons of other posts and don't seem to get anywhere with it, though. Yes some Muslims think it is their duty to wage holy war on anyone who doesn't believe the same way they do. The Catholic church was the same way before the modern age. But, just like the Catholic church, there are moderates in Islam. Off hand, I cannot think of one country on the planet that is ruled by Sharia (Islamic religious law). If most Muslims were fanatical, you'd think most of them wouldn't be semi-democratic. I hope you realize that there are Jews who live in other countries besides Israel in the middle east. Same with Christians. And as stated in the Qu'ran, they are NOT subject to Islamic law, but rather the law of their own faith. Afghanistan was definately the worst of the worst when it comes to representing the Islamic faith. Make a Muslim friend, you'll learn a lot. They're not all the same-just like we aren't. __________________ I just saved a ton of money on car insurance by switching to no car insurance!!! www.myspace.com/13468360

02-02-2007, 02:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mikael Band Member Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Down In a Hole Posts: 905 Rep Power: 43	If you get the time, you may want to check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXPErmLLeo0 There are a series of 5 min. videos about Islam. __________________ I just saved a ton of money on car insurance by switching to no car insurance!!! www.myspace.com/13468360

01-30-2007, 04:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
wilthrill Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 818 Rep Power: 44	"I won't deny the fact that there are Muslim radicals who want to harm us. But, their beliefs are rooted in the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood, and not TRUE Muslims." Mikael First of all, hello again Mikael. I believe we have debated in the past. Pardon my ignorance, but what is this "muslim brotherhood" you speak of? Secondly, would you not agree with the statement that literally millions of muslims want us dead? Sure there are millions who don't but they, by their silence, are refusing to become part of the solution and we still have to deal with the millions who do. Mymood Ineedajihad (crazy ass president of Iran) is just one example of a muslim LEADER backed up by literally tens of millions of followers who will come right out and say he wants us dead. Do you not believe him? You compare Islam to Judaism and Christianity but can you give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE of a prominent christian/jew who is calling for the annihilation of all non-christians or non-jews?

02-02-2007, 09:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
wilthrill Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 818 Rep Power: 44	Jews in Israel are calling for the destruction of every non-Jew on a daily basis." Mikael Perhaps you'd like to take the opportunity to back that statement up with some attributation, Mikael because I've never heard anything of the sort. I've heard Jews say that the arabs should be kicked out of Israel but that is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from saying they should be killed. Basically, Mikael it comes down to this. You have extremists in every religion. Take christianity for example. You have "christians" who believe that if you don't accept Christ (aka become a christian) then you will burn in hell!!! Sounds pretty extreme doesn't it. But EVEN THEY will tell you that GOD is the one who will judge you. In other words, in this life everyone must make choices and in the NEXT LIFE they will pay for those choices. My problem with Islam, is that they are the ONLY MAJOR religion whose zealots say "WE, NOT GOD, WILL JUDGE YOU!!! We, in this life, will exterminate those with which we disagree." Their preachers daily mount the pulpit and tell their followers that it is their duty to purge the Earth of infidels (aka non-muslims). THIS is by definition an INTOLERANT religion as practiced by the Islamofacists and unforetunately the Muslims that I can get along with (aka non-terrorists) AND the mainstream media are too gutless to criticize the Islamofacists. Mymood Ineedajihad (aka crazy-assed Islamofacist leader of Iran) should be the daily subject of ridicule and scorn. He should be too afraid of the criticism of the press to even think about doing an interview. He should be a laughing-stock fool joke. Instead Mike Wallace does a kiss-his-ass interview with him on Sixty Minutes. And the sad part is that we WILL HAVE to deal with the Islamofacists. It is us or them. You know in 1938 if the world would have dealt with Hitler (Hitler himself admitted that Britain and France could have stopped him before Munich), we could have saved roughly twenty million lives. We are making the same mistake with the Islamofacists and will probably pay a heavier price by not doing what is neccessary now!!!

02-02-2007, 04:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
wilthrill Band Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 818 Rep Power: 44	"The Catholic church was the same way before the modern age. But, just like the Catholic church, there are moderates in Islam." Mikael Thank you for making my point. Catholism WAS like that BEFORE the modern age. The problem is the Islamofacists are like that TODAY!!! "If most Muslims were fanatical, you'd think most of them wouldn't be semi-democratic. " Mikael I never said MOST mulsims were like that. In fact, I use the word "Islamofacists" to describe the ones who are fanatical. They are NOT the majority BUT there are tens of millions of them and they do present a problem even if we pretend they don't. (you know, generally speaking, when a man says he's going to kill you and is making preparations to do that, you should take him at his word) I don't blame all muslims for the terrorist actions of the Islamofacists. I DO however blame all muslims for their SILENCE! EVERY TIME one of the terrorist actions are carried out we should see mainstream Muslims CONDEMNING it! And yet we don't. We should see tens of thousands of them in the street condemning it and yet the ONLY time we see tens of thousands of muslims in the street is when they are rioting over a Danish cartoon or chanting "death to america". Please prove me wrong and give me EVEN ONE EXAMPLE to the contrary. Instead we have groups like CAIR (counsel on Islamic relations) criticizing US when 6 imans acting like terrorists are pulled from a plane. CAIR is trying to sue United Airlines when, in fact, there were probably muslims on that flight that were PROTECTED by United's actions (and BTW EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER on that plane, excluding the imans of course, supported United's actions). But CAIR would rather support the fanatics (and yes those 6 imans were fanatics) than the everyday people on that plane. And after THAT, I'm supposed to feel sorry for them???? I'm sorry but they've worn out my patience. When I see tens of thousands of muslims in the streets demonstrating against terrorism, I'll rethink my view. But I'm not holding my breath. PS why does this site continually kick me off? EVERY time I spend more than two minutes composing a post I have to log in again to post it.